Un G&G sur Gunbroker.com

I don't know how GunBroker in the USA works for you people, but there is a Navy Arms G&G for sale here (even if the seller does not know it is a G&G: The pictures show the wedge installed upside down). (Je ne sais pas comment Gunbroker aux USA fontionne pour vous, mais il y a un G&G Navy Arms à vendre (même sile vendeur ignore qu'il s'agit d'un G&G : les photos montrent la clavette montée le haut en bas.))

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/610220273

The date code is [AP] (1986). (le code indqiue une date de 1896 (AP))

I would be interested if any of you folks in France would consider this pistol. (je serais intéressé de savoir si quelqu'un d'entre vous pourrait être intéressé par ce revovler.)

If so, I would like to think I have contributed to your forum. Merci! (Si oui, j'aurais le plaisir de croire que j'aurais ainsi contribué au forum. Thanks)

Jim

I registered on Gunbroker a few days ago, as I spotted an EIG S&G I would be interested in. The as said "international shipment".
I sent the seller a message to ask for the postage and pagking price.
He answered me yesterday, stating : "My apologies, I don't believe I'm allowed to ship out of country."
I checked the ad this morning, and now it states "no international shipment".

I think most if not all sellers in the USA don't want to bother with the trouble of international shipping.

By the way, would you be kind enough to chack for us, and let us know whether it is possible for us French people to buy a black powder replica in the USA and have it shipped to us in France, what kind of official form we'd have to fill out, what process we'd have to go through, and what the costs might be ?
Thanks in adance.



Je me suis inscrit sur Gunbroker il y a quelques jours, car j'y avais repéré un G&G EIG qui m'intéressait. L'annonce précisait "envoi à l'international".
J'ai envoyé un message au vendeur pour lui demander le montant des frais d'envoi.
Il m'a répondu hier : "navré, je ne crois pas avoir le droit de faire une expédition à l'étranger."
J'ai relu l'annonce ce matin, et maintenant il est précisé "pas d'envoi à l'international".

Je pense que la plupart des vendeurs américains, si non tous, ne veulent pas s'embêter à expédier à l'international.

A propos, aurais-tu l'amabilité de vérifier pour nous et de nous dire si il est possible pour un Français d'acheter une réplique à poudre noire aux Etats-Unis et de se la faire expédier en France, quels documents il faudrait éventuellement remplir, quelles démarches il faudrait effectuer, et combien ça pourrait coûter ?
Merci d'avance.

Hi,

Thanks for the tip... but it is stipulated that there is no international shipment for this gun (as for most of the guns sold on Gunbroker), and I fear that the complex administrative process to have a black powder gun imported from the US to France, would be such an harrassment that it would discourage anybody to try to do it.

Besides, the G&G is considered as the cheapest model on the catalogs of italian replica gunmakers. You can fin it new for less than 200€ in France shipment included (on Westernguns 187€), i.e US$ 210. Here the minimum bid is US$288 / 274€ without shipment (US$50 more ?). Sorry, but I think that this is not such a bargain.

Anyway, thanks again for the tip... and happy new year to you !

Salut,

Merci pour le tuyau... mais il est mentionné qu'il n'y a pas d'envoi à l'international pour cette arme (comme pour la plupart des armes vendues sur Gunbroker), et je crains que la procédure administrative pour importer une arme à poudre noire des US soit si complexe, qu'elle découragerait n'importe qui d'essayer de la faire.

De plus, le G&G est considéré comme le modèle le moins cher sur les catalogues des fabricants italiens de répliques. On peut le trouver pour moins de 200€ en France FDPI (Westernguns 187€), soit moins de 210$. Là, le montant de la première enchère est de 288$/274€ sans les frais de port (50$ de plus ?). Désolé, mais je ne pense pas que ce soit une si bonne affaire.

De toute façon, encore merci pour le tuyau... et bonne année !

Ringo a écrit:I registered on Gunbroker a few days ago, as I spotted an EIG S&G I would be interested in. The as said "international shipment".
I sent the seller a message to ask for the postage and pagking price.
He answered me yesterday, stating : "My apologies, I don't believe I'm allowed to ship out of country."
I checked the ad this morning, and now it states "no international shipment".

I think most if not all sellers in the USA don't want to bother with the trouble of international shipping.

By the way, would you be kind enough to chack for us, and let us know whether it is possible for us French people to buy a black powder replica in the USA and have it shipped to us in France, what kind of official form we'd have to fill out, what process we'd have to go through, and what the costs might be ?
Thanks in adance.



Je me suis inscrit sur Gunbroker il y a quelques jours, car j'y avais repéré un G&G EIG qui m'intéressait. L'annonce précisait "envoi à l'international".
J'ai envoyé un message au vendeur pour lui demander le montant des frais d'envoi.
Il m'a répondu hier : "navré, je ne crois pas avoir le droit de faire une expédition à l'étranger."
J'ai relu l'annonce ce matin, et maintenant il est précisé "pas d'envoi à l'international".

Je pense que la plupart des vendeurs américains, si non tous, ne veulent pas s'embêter à expédier à l'international.

A propos, aurais-tu l'amabilité de vérifier pour nous et de nous dire si il est possible pour un Français d'acheter une réplique à poudre noire aux Etats-Unis et de se la faire expédier en France, quels documents il faudrait éventuellement remplir, quelles démarches il faudrait effectuer, et combien ça pourrait coûter ?
Merci d'avance.

le Molvanien a écrit:Hi,

Thanks for the tip... but it is stipulated that there is no international shipment for this gun (as for most of the guns sold on Gunbroker), and I fear that the complex administrative process to have a black powder gun imported from the US to France, would be such an harrassment that it would discourage anybody to try to do it.

Besides, the G&G is considered as the cheapest model on the catalogs of italian replica gunmakers. You can fin it new for less than 200€ in France shipment included (on Westernguns 187€), i.e US$ 210. Here the minimum bid is US$288 / 274€ without shipment (US$50 more ?). Sorry, but I think that this is not such a bargain.

Anyway, thanks again for the tip... and happy new year to you !

Salut,

Merci pour le tuyau... mais il est mentionné qu'il n'y a pas d'envoi à l'international pour cette arme (comme pour la plupart des armes vendues sur Gunbroker), et je crains que la procédure administrative pour importer une arme à poudre noire des US soit si complexe, qu'elle découragerait n'importe qui d'essayer de la faire.

De plus, le G&G est considéré comme le modèle le moins cher sur les catalogues des fabricants italiens de répliques. On peut le trouver pour moins de 200€ en France FDPI (Westernguns 187€), soit moins de 210$. Là, le montant de la première enchère est de 288$/274€ sans les frais de port (50$ de plus ?). Désolé, mais je ne pense pas que ce soit une si bonne affaire.

De toute façon, encore merci pour le tuyau... et bonne année !

I will do my best to help you fellow Frenchmen, but no guarantee.

Molvainien:

Just to clarify, the G&G has a part round/part octagon barrel. That Pietta .36 model is somewhat scarce in the US and is somewhat coveted for the barrel only, in order to swap it and the plain cylinder with other Pietta 1851 Navy pistols to create a Leech and Rigdon pistol, and then conversely as a Schneider and Glassick with the brass frame and the full octagon barrel, using a Pietta 1851 Navy steel model. Pietta has created many S&G .36 revolvers masquerading as 1851 Navy "Confederate" pistols, and probably not aware of it.

I procured a Pietta G&G 2 years ago and it is very nice.

Jim

@sourdough: I am very surprised to learn that the G&G is a scarce model in the US. Maybe the importers do not bother to deal with it as it is the first model on Pietta's catalog (and it used to be the same with Uberti... but I do not think that Uberti keeps on producing it). This explains its price for you. Thanks for explanation.
The Leech & Rigdon is only produced by Uberti as far as I know (unless, as you said, you "compose" a frankengun with different Pietta parts, and it is surpizing that Pietta does not have the L&R on its catalog), and is quite scare on this side on the Atlantic too as its production is made in a very small quantity. I think that this situation is nothing but a business plan by Pietta and Uberti: what is scarce is expensive....

le Molvanien a écrit:@sourdough: I am very surprised to learn that the G&G is a scarce model in the US. Maybe the importers do not bother to deal with it as it is the first model on Pietta's catalog (and it used to be the same with Uberti... but I do not think that Uberti keeps on producing it). This explains its price for you. Thanks for explanation.

The Leech & Rigdon is only produced by Uberti as far as I know (unless, as you said, you "compose" a frankengun with different Pietta parts, and it is surprising that Pietta does not have the L&R on its catalog), and is quite scarce on this side on the Atlantic too as its production is made in a very small quantity. I think that this situation is nothing but a business plan by Pietta and Uberti: what is scarce is expensive....

Thank you for the reply, sir! I must agree with you in entirety! I do believe things are very different on both sides of the Atlantic pond insofar as marketing. I think it all has to do with the various corporate people looking at the monetary bottom line.

I am also appreciative that you Frenchmen tolerate me posting in American English. It would take me many years to converse fluently in French. I do muddle my way through the original French posts but I usually give up and use the Google translater. Sorry!

Your forum has given me a new look insofar as how you look at the BP world, and it has been quite good.

Merci,

Jim